Saturday, May 23, 2015


Renowned Experts in the fields of Mind and Body Sciences, share their expertise and experiences during the course of three weeks of the Summit, have managed to hear a few very interesting and motivational talks, and share a few nuggets I managed to gather. 

If you are feeling interested to know more about the subject covered or a particular Expert, you can log on to the link, or Google. 

The broad aims behind the Summit are as follows: 

Discover, Learn, Believe, Transform 
Nourish Your Mind, Body and Soul
Treasure  All Of Your Experiences
True Happiness Resides Within 

Dr. Deepak Chopra talks about the place of God in our modern age.

Reality is different in different states of consciousness. 
Thought is also a veil.
Enlightment comes with unity of consciousness.
who am I ? According to my belief a repenting soul, who realised his folly immediately when he fell, and looked upon His Lord who assured that He will surely bring me back.
Who is asking the question ? An evolving and aware soul on his way faring journey towards his Lord.
As for the future of God - ultimate Reality or whatever you say. I have a gut feeling that He must surely have tuned in to the talk, andmay be having the last laugh, at us mortals, being worried about His future :))

Dr. Joe Dispenza - neouro scientist and best seeling author, discusses on how we can harness the body's innate intelligence, to improve our health and life.

Become CEO of our own body containing trillions of cells, which also has it's own well stocked pharmacy and the ability to heal. Our thoughts make us sick, so like wise it also can make us healthy. The need is to surrender and trust. 
When we disconnect, when we become ' nobody' a miracle happens, our consiousness takes the centre stage, and in uncertainity possibilities are born.
Consciousness brings about change in the matter, creating a new personality. New experience over rides and over writes.

Louise Hay in conversastion with Robert Holden shares stories of their personal journeys, and how to create Miracles in our own life.

Try to hear the inner ding.
Most people do not need so much therapy but what they need is more clarity.
Food is not only for our tastebuds, it gives us a high but is fleeting, whereas eating with awareness helps in infusing energy to our cells, which in turn makes us healthy in mind, body and spirit. 
It is all right to feel low at times, do not tarry long, but bounce back. 
Tyranny of positive thinking :)) Accept 'what is' but move along. 
Stop judging yourself, and you will see love and beauty. 
Affirmation : Life loves me. This will pass.

Dr. David Hawkins - renowned psychriastic, researcher and spiritual teacher, delivers an unparreled talk on the relationship between body and spirit.

We are only subject to what we hold in our mind. 
Body responds to what the mind believes.
Thoughts become a programme in our sub conscious mind. 
Energy field of the body is 100 whereas that of our mind is between 400 -500 so the power of the thought overpowers our body. The body will do what the mind believes. So in order to heal we have to address the mind. Unravel the programme in the mind. 
What mind believes, the body expresses.
There is an unconscious guilt, that brings about illness.
Forgivness, compassion, not being judgemental, acceptance brings about healing.

Dr. Larry Dossey in conversastion with Dr. Wayne Dyer talks about the Power of Prayers to change the World - and You.

Twenty years ago in US there were only 3 Medical Schools who were doing scientific studies on distant / pray healings. At present there are 90 Medical Schools who are undertaking different scientific studies. So there is a positive development. 
Scientific evidences are a plenty in non locality experiments that go to prove that sub atomic particles, at great distances react with each other. Like wise prayers and intentions can bring about healings, and scientific studies at Medical Schools are proving the same. 
You have to just set the stage for your awakening. Awaken to Oneness and loving compassion and see the miracles in your life unfold. 
Do not strive too hard, let your wayfaring towards your Lord be in joy and celebration. Do not direct the outcome - trust the Universe to do the best for you, and it will not let you down for sure. 
Sell your cleverness and just be in bewilderment - Rumi

Saturday, April 4, 2015


The Conscious Mind  12 %

The Sub Conscious Mind 88 %

The Conscious Mind is your objective or thinking mind, it works in the present moment. It has no memory and can hold one thought at a time. It identifies information received through the six senses. It is continually observing and categorising what is going around you. It analyses, compares and decides. Yes/ No.  Binary thinking.

Your Subconscious Mind is like a huge memory bank. It's capacity is virtually

unlimited. It permanently stores whatever happens to you. It is most active during the first six years of our life. The function of your subconscious mind is to store and retrieve data. It's job is to respond exactly the way you are programmed.

Subconscious Mind is subjective, it obeys the command received from the

conscious mind. Your subconscious mind has what us called a homeostatic
impulse. It automatically controls your body temperature, normal breathing, heart beats, nervous system.

Subconscious Mind refers to layers or levels of perceptions, located beneath

conscious awareness. It does not like to get ruffled, it likes to work and dwell in
its comfort zone.

As Subconscious Mind is your memory bank, it carries a lot of unwanted

baggage. New Age Thinkers are trying to understand and unravel the working of
the subconscious mind, which on account of negative impressions, memories
and thinking acquired over the years, inhibits and restricts development and
growth by holding back. The subconscious mind does not want to get ruffled.

The conscious mind can be made into a very effective tool, to remove all the past negative baggage carried in the huge memory bank of the subconscious mind.

We have to delete a lot of unwanted data.

We have to first become aware. Affirm that yes we are carrying a lot of

undesirable and unwanted perceptions, hurt, suppressed anger and feelings,
which are manifesting into our lives by way of illness, fear, self pity. There is much garbage that needs cleaning up.

Let me share with you, how I go about deleting and removing the unwanted and

inhibiting impressions, that pop up at life situations, apparently seeming to help me and protect me, but in fact restricting my growth and creativity.

As stated earlier normal breathing is controlled by our subconscious mind, but once we start doing deep control breathing, becoming aware with each breath, our conscious mind takes over.

There are many better and effective ways in bringing your Conscious Mind to act as a 'change agent', one can look up on the Net or read Books. I am just sharing my ways of going about it. 

 With the help of deep breathing I send repeated subtle message to my

subconscious that now I am in control. This is how I go about it. With each deep in breath with the diaphragm pulling down, creating more space,
for the air to fill, I say with full awareness. ' good prana (life energy ) is going in, I am getting healed in body, mind and spirit, Alhamdolillah ' this I say in mind, visualising as I hold my breath.

This is followed by slow out breath and I say and visualize '  Bad prana is coming out, I am healed - SubhanAllah '

I repeat it for 6 -10 times, and I am confident that in so doing my conscious mind is able to impress on my subconscious mind, that it has now to work in this specific area, and not to send out alarm signals, and only to retrieve positive data, whenever life  situation demands.

It sends out a clear message that now I choose calmly and objectively to see my old patterns, and I am willing to make changes.

 Just reflect - Which of these statements sounds like you.

' people are out there to get me'
' everyone is always helpful' 

Each of these belief will create different experiences. What we believe about

ourselves, and about life becomes true for us.

I am also in the habit of taking daily morning walks for a duration of approx twenty minutes, and have formed a habit of listening through my ear phones to a very melodious and spiritual rendering of the Ninety Nine Names of Allah 

( duration 3.5 mins) I have been doing it for years.

However, recently I heard an interesting talk by Dr. Bruce H. Lipton ( author of the Best Seller ' Biology of Belief' ) and came to understand that our subconscious runs like a continuous tape. All our past fears, hurts,admonitions,  

and all the negative and horrific scenes, that we witness daily on the News Channels and Print Media, the violence and mayhem shown in Movies, to which we come addicted, all these get downloaded in our subconscious. 

So very recently I have started to become aware of the Ninety Nine Names of Allah, as it plays out, and as I do 'tasbih' of the Names I also affirm with full conviction that with the Power of these Ninety Nine Names of Allah, all my accumulated hurt, fear and negativity that is being played out in my subconsciousness is getting deleted. 

At the end of each rendering I say out aloud - ' delete - delete - delete ' !! It is fun, every thing does not have to be serious and sombre. You may consider me to be foolish, but for me it is working  - and that is important. It is my life after all. 

In so doing I am bringing in my awareness in the ' present moment ' living in the Present as taught by Echart Tolle (Book - The Power of Now ) affirming with my conscious mind, and having faith and full conviction that the Power of Allah's Ninety Nine Names, is deleting all that is detrimental and undesirable in my subconscious. 

Nick Ortner's Tapping Solution  (Book - The Tapping Solution for Pain Relief) Pranic Healing Therapy, there are many other proven techniques, all teach us to let go our past, and live in the present moment with full awareness. 

I conclude by sharing one of the many positive affirmation of Louise Hay (Book - You can heal your life) 

In the infinity of life, where I am 

all is perfect, whole and complete
I believe in a power far greater than I am
that flows through me every moment of every day
I open myself to the wisdom within 
knowing that there is only One intelligence in this Universe
out of this One Intelligence comes all the answers
all the solutions, all the healings, all the new creations
I trust this Power and Intelligence (now this is fundamental -putting your trust) 
knowing that whatever I need to know is revealed to me 
and that whatever I need comes to me ( tawakkul on Allah )
in the right time, space and sequence
all is well in the world. 

Hope that reading this 'write up' of mine  has come at the right time, you have given your busy life -  a space, a 'me time' to take charge of yourself and bring about healing of the Mind - Body and Soul. 

Internet Ref: Brian Tracy Com 

Wednesday, March 11, 2015


An open letter to my departed sister

Dearest sister,
 I do not know if you would be able to read this in any way by any means but if you do, please do feel privileged to be living in a world much better than mine.

I am writing this to you with a sombre expression on my face, a lump in my throat and tears in my eyes. I just finished watching the documentary which the BBC news channel made on you on international women's day. I am filled with both pride and shame on watching it. Pride, needless to say being you and shame, those inhuman species who took you away from us.

16th DEC 2012, the entire country stood in shock resulting from the horrendous and barbaric cruelty meted out to you and your friend. Although, in a country like ours which has become habituated to crimes against women, the sad news about you wasn't really a bolt from the blue, it still had the entire nation rooted to the spot. Such was the intensity of the crime, dear sister, I understand. I failed to even imagine the pain you must have felt for even a cursory glance from a stranger makes my blood run cold.

While you were battling between life and death, shock and shame, an unprecedented and tumultuous uproar in the form of protests was carried out at every corner of the country. You, dear sister, were the reason the entire nation was in solidarity. We couldn't take this anymore.  Seeing such outrage of extreme emotions from people I had high hopes from the law to do its best to reduce, if not totally eliminate crimes against women but sadly, sister, the scenario still remains unchanged. Every twenty minutes a woman is raped in India. Even As I write this to you, somewhere a woman is being bullied, harassed and raped while the perpetrators of your ghastly crime are probably enjoying a hearty meal in imprisonment.

Often when me and my friends walk to and from college, there are always those few pairs of eyes gazing at us lecherously. Sometimes, they purposely push us, other times they speed up their bikes to scare us. All because, we are girls. I have been punished to be a girl. I have had to curb my dreams and passions because I am a girl. I love to travel and explore new places. I want to go on trips with my friends but I must remember i am a girl, a flower that needs protection and hence I must stay home and enroll myself in household chores. I must not dare to step out of the house alone, especially after sunset, otherwise the thorn might harm the flower. I want to go to parties and have fun just like my male friends but I must not forget that I am a girl, the one who is considered more  responsible in any case with a man. Sister, I want to break free from the shackles of codes and conducts, dos and don'ts, but I must abide by them because I am a girl.

Dearest sister, I would like to make a number of  heartfelt apologies to you.

Apology on behalf of our financially handicapped govt which otherwise has a lot of fund to shell out just to be in the good books of a certain visitor from the States or to garnish sportsmen with handsome cheques. But when it comes to improving the standard of security for women in our country, their pockets are empty

Apology on behalf of our legislature and judiciary which has always failed to deliver prompt justice to the victim. Apology on behalf of the so called guardians of the people,  the police officers, for their lackadaisical attitude, for being so classless and disinterested in our matters, for supporting the false when offered money

Apology on behalf of all those selfish, self-centered people, who would make no move in helping a woman knowing she is in trouble. Of course, why would they invite trouble for themselves?

Apology on behalf of Mr Honey Singh, the blatantly sexist singer who has so conveniently made a future for himself by caricaturing women, still being a favourite son.

Apology on behalf of the masterminds behind TV soaps for always depicting women to be inferior to men.

But above all,  I owe you an excruciating and shameful apology for being unable to do anything to bring you justice.

But you have come to me and every other woman as a great inspiration. Your determination to achieve your goals against all odds is very galvanizing. I wish with all my heart that someday your dream of opening a hospital in your village is realised. 

With the shallow , shameless, adamant mindsets of a part of the male fraternity, there is  indeed a good male majority, which needs to be become more pro active in this country, it is than only that we will have  hope to live in a crime free India. On women's day I woke up to the news of a 6 year old being brutally raped in Ahmedabad.

Tomorrow again I might wake up to the news of yet another rape, if only its reported. Tomorrow again I will notice someone giving me licentious looks. The age of chivalry is dead sister. Humanity has failed.  Dearest sister, like I said, please do feel privileged to be living in a world much better than mine. You might not be the nearest to us but you are definitely the dearest. You are not just a daughter to your parents, you are "India's Daughter"

- From a helpless younger sister


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Friday, March 6, 2015


Having heard so much uproar on the Documentary, I pushed the play button with much trepidation, thinking of seeing gut wrenching narration, and graphics, but I found the Documentary to be well made covering all aspects of the Nirbhaya incident. No prolonged wails and dramatic outbursts. I am wondering why the Indian Govt has to ban it ? The opinions of the experts and all connected with the incident, is laid out before the public in a very decent format minus theatricals. Some of the Hindi soap that are dished out on TV has more wailing and more gut wrenching scenes. Prolonged cries and hearty laughter of the goons.

Let me share with you a personal experience. I went to the Barbers for a shave around noon, the ideal time for family Hindi soaps on TV. One was playing out above my head,and although I was not able to watch it, as I had surrendered my face to the barber, I could hear the audio.

From the audio I surmised that a villain was acting tough and was in the act of  ruining the modesty of the lady protagonist, and for more than 5 minutes she was pleading, begging to let her go, and amid continuous loud wailing. I was feeling so disgusted, the wails and the cries were unbearable, so as the first part of the shave was over, I requested the barber to change the channel forthwith.

Now these type of soaps need to be banned, not this Documentary, which has a very understated tone, and tries to portray the thoughts of all those associated with the case.

At the end of the Documentary, the grieved father reflects on her Jyoti who has become a symbol - he makes a profound observation by stating ' a storm arose, and has passed, but what is important, is what is left after the storm' now that is very important. If her sacrifice has not been able to change the mindset of the country, her sacrifice is in vain, no lesson has been learnt. I was aghast to read the report that out of 10,000 foetus found in a hospital 9900 plus ( forget the exact number) were of girl child. Shocking indeed. Banning the Documentary shows the mindset still needs to be changed.

Tuesday, March 3, 2015



Book Reference : Hyperspace – A Scientific Odyssey Through Parallel Universes – Dr. Michio Kaku.

This book is about a scientific revolution created by the theory of hyperspace, which states that dimensions exist beyond the commonly accepted four of space and time. There is a growing acknowledgement among physicist, that the universe may actually exist in higher dimension space.

For me personally although not a student of science, the Book provided deep insights into my religious belief, science seems to be finally starting to accept long held spiritual truths.

At the very onset of the Book in Chapter 1 Dr. Kaku gives a brilliant example from his childhood days, when he used to watch the carps, in the shallow pond in a Japanese garden.

‘Living their entire lives in the shallow pond, the carp would believe that their ‘universe’ consisted of the murky water and the lilies. Spending most of their time foraging on the bottom of the pond, they would be dimly aware that an alien world could exist above the surface. The nature of my world was beyond their comprehension. I was intrigued that I could sit only a few inches from the carp, yet separated from them by an immense chasm. The carp and I spent our lives in two distinct universes, never entering each other’s world, yet were separated by only the thinnest barrier, the water’s surface.

I often think that we are like carp swimming contentedly in our pond. We live out our lives in our own “pond”. We smugly refuse to admit that parallel universes or dimensions can exist next to ours, just beyond our grasp. (Great Spiritual Masters and mystics have experienced and visualised, and some have tried to convey the unseen dimensions and universes. Now scientists are accepting in theory )

Another striking example is given by Peter Freund, who has stated that laws of nature become simpler and elegant, when expressed in higher dimensions, which is their natural home (A’lam al Ibda – ten dimensional A’lam al Amr which came into existence by the Command ‘kun fayakun’ )

Freund, in explaining why higher dimensions are exiting the imagination of the scientific world, uses the following analogy. 

‘Think for a moment of a cheetah, a sleek beautiful animal, one of the fastest on the earth, which roams freely on the savannas of Africa. In its natural habitat, it is a magnificent animal. Almost a work of art, unsurpassed in speed or grace.

Now think of a cheetah that has been captured and thrown into a miserable cage in a zoo. It has lost its original grace and beauty, and is put in the cage for our amusement. We only see the broken spirit of the cheetah, not its original power and elegance. The cheetah likewise can be compared to the laws of physics, which are beautiful in the higher dimensions. However, because of human limitation, we can only measure the laws of physics, when they are broken and placed on display in a cage, which is our three dimensional laboratory. We only see the cheetah when its grace and beauty have been stripped away.

(From this I infer how the Spiritual Masters are able to experience the Higher Truths, as they can ‘home in’ to the higher dimensions, and be able to comprehend, whereas we laymen, miss the bus, as we have not the knowledge to comprehend, as we are used to seeing and understanding at our own level )

The advantage of ten dimensional space is that we have enough room in which to accommodate all the four fundamental forces.

The leading scientists like  Alan Guth and Freund are of the opinion that the energy scale necessary to investigate the higher dimensions is far beyond anything available on earth. The energy necessary to probe the tenth dimension is a quadrillion times larger than the energy that can be produced by our largest atom smasher!!

Introducing higher dimensions may be essential for prying loose the secrets of Creation. According to this theory, before the Big Bang, our cosmos was actually a perfect ten dimensional universe. (Is Dr. Kaku inadvertently referring to A’lam al Ibda)

However, this ten dimensional world was unstable, ( Interesting if one has read Sayedi Sadikali sahib Nashihat) and eventually it ‘cracked’ in two, creating two separate universes; a four and six dimensional Universe. The Universe in which we live was born in that cosmic cataclysm. Our four dimensional Universe expanded explosively (‘huboot’ tenebrosity according to our belief ) while our twin six dimensional universe contracted violently, until it shrank to almost infinitesimal... this six dimensional universe may ultimately be our salvation !! There you go
(Reading this made me wonder is this some theoretical physicist talking or a Spiritual savant. Science and Spirituality are coming so close. Hope in near future with the help of both, we will be able to understand Tawheed – ONENESS )

How fortunate are we in this internet age. Information on practically all topics under the Sun, for ordinary guys like me is so very easy to acquire. Just Google it – and hey presto! It is there.

Let me share with you an interesting story. How difficult it was for the best of minds in the bygone era. They had to sweat and burn midnight oil just to crave for information. But still the bottom line is that, they were original thinkers, and torch bearers.

Let me share with you an interesting story. Dr. Albert Einstein’s proudest piece of work, even more than is celebrated equation E = mc2 was the simple yet profound equation ‘ Matter – energy determines curvature of space- time’

This deceptively short equation is one of the greatest triumphs of the human mind. From it emerge the principles behind the motions of stars and galaxies, black holes, the Big Bang and perhaps the fate of the Universe itself.

Nevertheless Einstein was still missing the piece of the puzzle. He had discovered the correct physical principle, but lacked a rigorous mathematical formula powerful enough to express this principle. He spent 3 long frustrating years, from 1912 to 1915 in a desperate search for mathematical formula powerful enough to express the principle.

The world’s most powerful mind was in search for 3 long years. How I wish Google was there during his time, it would have made it a child’s play, and would have given him space to  concentrate on other weighty problems.

Einstein in desperation wrote to his close friend and mathematician Marcel Grossman, pleading “ you must help me or else I’ll go crazy !” Poor soul !

Fortunately Grossman, to help his friend, combed through library for clues to Einstein’s problem, and fortunately accidently stumbled upon the work of Riemann. His work had been ignored by physicist for over 60 years, but to Einstein joy he found the mathematical formula that was long evading him. The celebrated 1854 lecture by Riemann was the key to the problem.

He found that he could incorporate the entire body of Riemann’s work in the reformulation of his principle. Almost line for line, the great work of Riemann found its true home in Einstein’s principle.

Riemann’s great contribution was that he introduced the concept of metric tensor, a field that is defined at all points in space. The metric tensor is not a single number. At each point in space, it consists of ten numbers !! Now this piece of science  is exiting for me – ten numbers in all points of space. (The Tenth Intellect – Sayedi Sadik ali sahib in his Nashihat says “ aa duniya na A’shir ne havala chhe” )

Now let us look back on little Albert while he was growing up. The life of Albert Einstein appears to be one long series of failures. His mother was distressed at how slowly he learnt to talk. His elementary school teacher thought of him as a foolish dreamer. They complained that he was constantly disrupting classroom discipline with silly questions. He had few friends, and dropped out of high school.

He took special exam to enter College but he flunked and had to take it the second time. On graduation he applied for teaching jobs, but was rejected several times. Finally with the help of a friend, he landed a clerical job at the Swiss Patent office and the rest is history.

Likewise, the life struggle of Georg Riemann who gave the world the theory of higher dimensions, which Albert Einstein would use after six decades to explain the creation of Universe, also makes an interesting reading.

The core of Riemann’s work was the realization that physical laws simplify in higher dimensional space, the very theme of this book.
Riemann was born in 1826 at Hanover, Germany, the son of a poor Lutheran pastor, the second of his six children. Life was a day to day struggle.

At the very early age, Riemann exhibited his famous traits, fantastic calculation ability, coupled with timidity and life long horror of public speaking. He set out to become a student of Theology, but his thoughts always drifted back to mathematics.

He was an avid reader and he completed reading of a ponderous 859 page masterpiece Theory of Numbers in just under 6 days.
Beset by daily struggle to put food on the table, Riemann’s father might have sent the boy to do menial jobs and help the family finances. Instead he scraped together enough funds to send the 19 year to the renowned University of Gottingen, where he met and befriended the acclaimed Mathematician Carl Gauss.

Life for Riemann, however, was an endless series of setbacks and hardships, coupled with frail health. Eventually, Riemann was able to give his famous lecture on June 10, 1854 before the faculty of University of Gottingen and a new Geometry was born.
Riemann’s lecture exposed the world to the dazzling properties of higher dimensional space.

Thursday, February 19, 2015


I was always eager to know how and in which period of history the Fatemi Dawat took its root in India, and who were the first harbingers, their background and their Mission. By referring to different sources, I am presenting the episodes of Fatemi Dawat in Hind, the historical events as oit unfolded in the early Eleventh Century.

In Misr during the glorious reign of Imam Mustansir Billah ( S.A.) a Hindu Raja Siddhrath Jaisingh was the ruling from Khambat.  After the advent of Islam many Arabs had been steadily coming down to Hindustan and Islam was slowly spreading with marked concentration in areas around Delhi and Lucknow.

Islam was spreading far and wide and this made the head priest of Raja Jaisingh very apprehensive, and in order to save the kingdom from an alien  religion, he advised the Raja to take a vow not to partake food before killing a Muslim each day and making a tilak with the blood of the killed Muslim.

One day an Arab trader owing allegiance to the Fatemi Dawat happened to travel to Khambat and was caught by the guards and brought before the Raja, who ordered him to be executed. However, by his convincing arguments, the trader managed to convey to the Raja that he need not kill him to keep his vow, he may chop off his hand, and with the blood to tilak and partake his food.

Thus he saved himself and managed to travel back gto Misr and appeared in the Hazrat of Imam (S.A.) and narrated the incident Imam Mustansir Billah (S.A.) planted the seed of Fatemi Dawat by sending Moulayee Ahmad to Khambat to ascertain the prevailing religion and culture and to seek converts.

In the guise of a Hindu sage Moulayee Ahmad stayed in Khambat and obsereved the customs and traditions. During his wanderings Moulayee Ahmad took a liking of two young lads aged between 12-14 years, who appeared to be very bright and intelligent. He found out that both these boys were orphans, who lived with their relatives. One was Ramnath and the other was Roopnath. Moylayee Ahmad won their trust and confidence, so much so that they started living with him and also agreed to accompany him to Misr.

On reaching Misr the two boys were presented in Hazarat Aliyah Immamiyah and were entrusted in the care of Moulayee Lamak, who lovingly instructed the two boys in Fatemi Ulooms. Thus Ramnath became Moulayee Abdullah and Roopnath became Moulayee Nuruddin. Imam (S.A.) instructed Sayedna Lamak to accompany them till Yemen and from there, the three Sahebs set sail and landed in Khambat harbour in the year 453 H and started the Fatemi Dawat in earnest.

Moulayee Ahmad was the first Vali e Hind and started his mission from Khambat. He sent Moulayee Nuruddin to the Deccan Central India and Moulayee Abdullah to Patan. Around Khambat Moulayee Ahmad won over many hearts by his knowledge, saintly character and miracles, and the news of his mission travelled far and wide, and in due course of time the two prominent vazirs of Raja Jaisingh, namely Raja Bharmal ( who was also son in law of Raja Jaisingh ) and Raja Tarmal came under the influence of Islam.

The famous incident of the hung Elephant in the Temple that attracted a lot of devotees, in which case Moulayee Ahmad removed the concealed magnates from the floor and roof of the Temple, which made the rock Elephant come crushing down, shook the Hindu belief as never before, and many converts were won over. It is said that before his death even Raja Jaisingh gave Misaq to Moulayee Ahmad. On his death bed he gave instruction that he should not be consigned to flames as per Hindu custom, but was to be buried and the his last rites were to be conducted by Moulayee Ahmad. Year 1143 A.D.

When the first Vali e Hind Moulayee Ahamad died in Khambat in 560 H Moulayee Nuruddin became the Second Vali e Hind and on his death in Dongaon in the year 563 H Moulayee Abdullah became the 3rd Vali e Hind. Moulayee Abdullah died in Patan in 565 H.

The 4th Vali e Hind was Moylayee Yakub who was the son of Raja Bharmal, and before openly giving allegiance at the hands of Moyalee Ahmad was known as Ajaypal. He helped a great deal in winning over converts to the Fatemi Dawat.

Moylayee Yakub the 4th Vali e Hind directed Sayedi Fakhruddin Saheed ( son of Raja Tarmal) to spread Deen and win over converts in vaghad bilad (Gujrat - Rajastan bordering areas) It was near Galiyakot that he was looted and martyred by the Bhills.

In the descendents of Moylaee Yakub came the Nine Doat Mutlaqeen known as A'al e Bharmal. The first amongst them being 34th Dai ul Mutlaq Sayedna Ismail Badruddin Moula - Jamnagar.
1065 to 1085 H.

Aqa A'li Qdr Muffadal Moula's lineage is traced back to both Raja Bharmal and Raja Tarmal.